Police and Obama Will Kill Your Family, Here's Proof

[WaTcHeR]

Police and the American government can be very dangerous, specially when you worship a differently or think differently. They don't want you to be an "individual" or a free thinker. To them you are their property, a slave of debt.

There's a special place in hell for the following law enforcement agencies and I hope that every agent and officer from these agencies involved in the Waco incident dies a slow and painful death. These agencies are some of the most dangerous groups of people in America and are a threat to all Americans. Protect your families from them!

(A.T.F) Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

(Texas D.P.S.) Texas Department of Public Safety

Texas Rangers

Waco Texas Police

(F.B.I.) Federal Bureau of Investigation

If these people can murder innocent women and children, just imagine what they're capable of doing to your family. Any law enforcement agency that refuses to follow the U.S. Constitution should be hung by the neck until dead.

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The Waco siege began on February 28, 1993, and ended violently 50 days later on April 19.[2] The siege began when the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) attempted to execute a search warrant at the Branch Davidian ranch at Mount Carmel, a property located nine miles (14 km) east-northeast of Waco, Texas. On February 28, shortly after the attempt to serve the warrant, an intense gun battle erupted, lasting nearly 2 hours. In the aftermath of this armed exchange, four agents and six followers of David Koresh were killed. Upon the ATF's failure to execute the search warrant, a siege was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The siege ended 50 days later when a second assault on the compound was made and a fire destroyed the compound. Seventy-six people (24 of them British nationals)[3] died in the fire, including more than 20 children, two pregnant women, and Koresh himself.

Below are three videos that the A.T.F, Texas D.P.S. and the F.B.I. hope that you never view. Please take a few minutes of your time and view the videos below and learn the real truth.


Waco the Big Lie 1 of 3



Waco the Big Lie 2 of 3



Waco the Big Lie 3 of 3

[WaTcHeR]

"The Enemy"






A smirk that I'd like to see blown off with some buck shot






A pussy hiding behind a mask



Cold blooded baby killers


More cold blooded baby killers, that should be hung by their balls!


























Protect and serve? Just who were these law enforcement agencies protecting and who were they serving? Not "We the People!"

[WaTcHeR]

What happens when cops and the government fucks with the peoples constitutional rights? We go to war against the bastards!















War isn't such a bad thing, specially against a tyrant government. Sure there was innocent women and children killed in Oklahoma, but there was innocent women and children killed in Waco Texas. War is not a bad thing, right? President George Bush doesn't seem to have a problem killing tens of thousands of innocent women and children in Iraq and he's a Christian.

[KC]

Oklahoma bomber predicted deaths of children - Records stored at UT show Timothy McVeigh disaffected after Waco incident

t began in high school, with a vague sense that Americans' gun rights were threatened. By April 19, 1995, when he blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and injuring hundreds more, Timothy McVeigh's distrust of government had morphed into a malignant hatred.

That impression emerges from statements McVeigh made under oath to his lawyers in 1995 while he was in a federal prison awaiting trial. McVeigh was convicted in 1997 and executed in 2001. A transcript of the statements was donated to the University of Texas along with thousands of other records in the case by McVeigh's lead counsel, Stephen Jones of Enid, Okla.

Much of the information in the transcript came out in trial testimony, interviews and leaks to media outlets years ago, but the transcript itself, with McVeigh's matter-of-fact language, has not previously come to public light.

McVeigh told his lawyers that his views were influenced by the survivalist movement, by right-wing literature with racist and anti-Semitic overtones, by his experiences in the Army, by the death of his grandfather and by two bloody standoffs involving federal agents, one at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and one near Waco.

It was the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms siege near Waco at a compound occupied by the Branch Davidian religious sect that seemed to cement his anti-government thinking.

McVeigh told his lawyers that he drove from Florida to Waco to check things out and said, "My anger was further heightened when I was stopped on a public road a good five miles from this place and turned around by a group of about six to eight ATF and U.S. marshals sitting there, drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes, hauling their (expletive) camouflage and telling me I can't go any farther on this public road. ... I just got incensed."

Later, McVeigh said, "tears came into my eyes" when he heard on the radio that the compound was burning down. Seventy-six people, including 21 children, died when federal agents stormed the site. Four agents and six Branch Davidians had been killed weeks earlier.

"Great. There are a bunch of charred babies laying in there," McVeigh said. "So, this just pretty much hammered me down that I would — I was going to do whatever I could to wake people up and help people fight this, because this is wrong."

Even, apparently, if it meant that more children would die.

In another passage, McVeigh recalled mentioning this possibility to two friends, Michael and Lori Fortier, who participated in some of the planning of the Oklahoma bombing.

"I told them, you know, 'Children may die. There may be a pregnant woman working there, or there may be someone walking down the street, or someone may have taken their child to work with them,' " McVeigh said.

Nineteen children were among those killed in the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, which occurred exactly two years after the assault on the Branch Davidian compound.

Michael Fortier served more than 10 years in prison for failing to warn authorities about the plot. His wife testified in the case but was granted immunity from prosecution. Terry Nichols, who was also convicted in the bombing, is serving two life sentences.

Just for the record

McVeigh apparently didn't think his statements to his lawyers at the Federal Correctional Institution in El Reno, Okla., would ever be released publicly.

"It's just for the official record, not for trial purposes," McVeigh said, agreeing with Jones' assertion during the prison interview that the statements would not be "disclosed to anybody without your express written consent and authorization," according to the transcript.

The transcript, correspondence, FBI reports, photographs and other records are stored at UT's Center for American History, where they are available for public review.

Jones said Wednesday that McVeigh waived the attorney-client privilege, leaving Jones free to donate the materials for public inspection.

The lawyer said he does not believe much of what McVeigh said in the statement, adding that McVeigh's claim that he lit the fuse and set off the truck bomb is "open to question." Jones argued in a book that indications of foreign involvement in the plot weren't adequately investigated by the federal government.

Jones sought a tax deduction for his donation of the McVeigh papers to UT but was rebuffed last month by the U.S. Tax Court. He said he plans to ask the court to set aside the ruling and, if that fails, to appeal.

The records at UT include a sworn statement by Jones, apparently filed under seal in federal court in January 1996, in which the lawyer asserts, "The factual and legal guilt of Mr. McVeigh is very much in question."

That affidavit was submitted four months after McVeigh told Jones that he stole explosives, rented a truck and lit the fuse.

UT obtained the McVeigh records in two batches, the first in 1997 and the second in 2002, according to Don Carleton, director of the Center for American History.

'My hero Jean Picard'

In the prison statement, McVeigh, who was a decorated Gulf War veteran, comes across as increasingly disaffected with the government. He had washed out of Special Forces training when blisters kept him from marching, and he eventually became convinced that the United States should not be the world's policeman.

"I would get mad at our strong-arming other countries and telling them what to do, increasing anti-gun sentiment in America, the liberal mind-set ... that all things in the world can be solved by discussion," McVeigh said.

A nonviolent approach is best, he said, citing "my hero Jean Picard," the spaceship captain in the television show "Star Trek: The Next Generation."

"Negotiation can win most (of the time), but the truth is, there are times when negotiation fails. I found this a few times in the military when I would go to fists with a couple of guys, them provoking it first," McVeigh said.

The incidents at Waco and at Ruby Ridge, where a survivalist's wife and son were killed along with a federal agent during a siege in 1992, convinced McVeigh that the government intruded on its citizens too much.

McVeigh hit the gun-show circuit, selling firearms with the notion that he was helping people defend themselves. But he concluded that he needed to do more.

"So I decided we needed to turn the tide and go on the offensive, and that is when we started formulating a plan in August of '94," McVeigh said.

He said he and Nichols rejected Little Rock, Ark., because it was "no good" and Dallas because "there was no one building listed in the phone book," settling on the Murrah building in downtown Oklahoma City. They bought fertilizer, stole explosives and cashed in gold that Nichols owned to help finance the plot.

As the day chosen for the bombing approached, McVeigh said, he more or less resigned himself to getting caught. He didn't bother putting a stolen license plate on his getaway car, driving without a plate out of Oklahoma City.

"There is a little bit of giving up involved there," McVeigh said. "There is a little bit of I had nowhere to go, no allies to continue anything with."

A state trooper noticed that there was no plate, pulled McVeigh over and arrested him for carrying a handgun beneath his jacket. Authorities soon realized that he was suspected in the bombing.




http://www.statesman.com/news/content/n ... veigh.html

[Keith]

whine, whine, whine.

[KC]

whine, whine, whine.

I'm sure that's what you would be doing when your children and other love one's were killed or burned to death. Then again who cares, I'm thinking your family probably isn't worth the change in my pocket!

[TomRailFan]

You should add the Galveston Texas Police department to your list based on their policy: If they see someone photographing the city’s chemical plants they detain the photographer in question. Police then review photos to see if they pose any threat but do not confiscate cameras or photographs. And there is NO LAW against taking pictures of chemical plants, especially from public properity.

These pigs aren't too concerned about the first amendment.

[WaTcHeR]

You should add the Galveston Texas Police department to your list based on their policy: If they see someone photographing the city’s chemical plants they detain the photographer in question. Police then review photos to see if they pose any threat but do not confiscate cameras or photographs. And there is NO LAW against taking pictures of chemical plants, especially from public properity.

These pigs aren't too concerned about the first amendment.

Yep that's is true, here's the story:

http://www.policecrimes.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4830

Also there's several new videos on the video section of the forum where police officers get upset when they're being filmed and demand that the citizen to quit recording them.

[WaTcHeR]

When Bob Hudgins, director of the Texas Film Commission, recently said that he had personally rejected a screenplay called "Waco" — a thriller about the siege of the Branch Davidian compound near Waco in 1993 — for the state's new tax incentives, he said there were gross inaccuracies in the script that at best muddled the facts and at worst rewrote the historical record.

Hudgins didn't provide specifics. But his decision produced a firestorm of criticism from the producers of the $30 million "Waco," who defended the script's accuracy, and from some local film industry employees, who said they felt betrayed.

One of the members of law enforcement who reviewed the finished script was Byron Sage, the FBI's lead negotiator during the siege . Hudgins says he gave the script to another retired law enforcement agent, who passed it on to Sage.

In his first interview about the subject since the controversy erupted in May, Sage is blunt about the "Waco" script, which he says fabricates relationships, takes liberties with dialogue, twists the dynamics and flat-out makes things up.

"It is inaccurate from page one, literally," he says. "I've gone through it page by page. The further I got into it, the more astounded I became."

Sage has been facing an uphill battle in popular culture during the past few years, defending the FBI against allegations that it and other federal agencies, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, acted improperly in the siege and possibly started the conflagration at the Branch Davidian compound near Waco that eventually killed 76 people, including children. The FBI has contended that the Davidians started the fire in a mass suicide.

While Sage accuses the people behind the new "Waco" movie of having an agenda, he is also bound to his own agenda — that of making sure people see it the FBI's way.

"I am absolutely committed to making sure that the truth and facts are presented to the American public. There's been a very skillful manipulation of the facts for whatever reason that unfortunately has resulted in a handful of people rewriting history," he says, referring to such documentaries as "Waco: Rules of Engagement."

Mike McNulty, the producer of "Rules of Engagement," is also a producer on the latest movie. And "Rules of Engagement" suggested federal culpability in the blaze.

Sage is especially upset, he says, because he spoke extensively with the script's lead writer Rupert Wainwright while Wainwright was researching the material. About three years ago, Wainwright met Sage in Texas and interviewed him for several hours. They also had numerous phone conversations.

"His questions were very professional and probing," recalls Sage, now retired from the FBI. " He had definitely done his homework. But I told him if his idea was to mislead or produce some kind of Oliver Stone version of events, I didn't want anything to do with it."

Sage, of course, is a main character in the script, and indeed the movie opens with Sage having a phone conversation with Steve Schneider, the so-called deputy to Branch Davidian leader David Koresh. As written, Sage tells Schneider, "I need you to listen. Things are no longer in my hands. Do you understand?"

This never happened, Sage says.

Wainwright, who says he did years of exhaustive research, including interviews with surviving Branch Davidians, disputes Sage's take on the script, though he admits that Sage's character is a composite of many FBI negotiators.

When it comes to stories based on history, Hollywood is known to distill and compress, elide and edit, even put its own spin on the facts. Broad strokes are used, actual events scrunched into a film's two-hour running time. Composite characters are a common device and chronology might be shuffled for dramatic effect.

"He's reading the screenplay and there's a character named Byron Sage, and he thinks, 'Well, I didn't eat bacon and eggs on Tuesday. I had a bagel. This is wrong!' " Wainwright says. "I think it would be easier for him if the lead character didn't have his name. He wouldn't take every single individual detail quite so specifically."

Other examples of inaccuracies, according to Sage, include placing prominent agents at the siege for the full 51 days when they were there for one or two days and showing agents firing "flash-bangs" into the compound, suggesting that the FBI started the deadly fire.

Sage says that much of the script is accurate. But too much of it is "simply not true and blown totally out of proportion."

Overall, he says, "it's absolute crap ."

Wainwright responds: "I have utmost respect for Byron, but I'm afraid that he doesn't have the right to say that he's the only person in the world who knows what happened at any time."

Sage contends that the new film makes him look good, even saintly, but he's more concerned that it paints the FBI as aggressors — and possibly at fault in the fatal fire.

"If people want to know what truly happened at Waco, they can talk to some old white-haired guy like myself and read the congressional record and review the Danforth Investigation and all the court accounts."

Sage contacted Wainwright after he read the script. "I told him I was very upset with the inaccuracies and outright fabrications in the script, and if this was to move forward as the foundation of the movie, then I did not want my name associated with it in any way, shape or form."

Commissioner Hudgins found himself defending his rejection based on the script's alleged falsehoods. Under a statute passed by the Legislature in 2007, also known as a content provision, projects that put Texas in a negative light can be denied incentives. The provision was introduced by state Senate Finance Committee Chairman Steve Ogden, R-Bryan and states that filmmakers taking incentives cannot show "Texas or Texans in a negative fashion."

Ogden added the provision in 2007 after controversy erupted around the Texas-filmed 2006 sports drama "Glory Road," which tells the story of the 1966 Texas Western Miners and, according to school supporters, exaggerates racism at East Texas State University. Hudgins cites historical innacuracies in that case as a precedent to his rejection of the "Waco" script.The provision, however, puts Texas in rare company. Only one other state, Utah, has a similar restriction on approving movies for incentives. And representatives of "Waco" production company Entertainment 7 and others have raised questions about whether Texas should put itself in the position of making judgments about scripts and their effect on perceptions. Entertainment 7 executives also challenge the notion that the new movie would reflect poorly on Texas.

Sage, however, applauds Hudgins for taking a position when it might have been easier to grant permission to the project.

"He had the professionalism and character and fortitude to make a very difficult decision, knowing full well that it was probably going to get them some very negative press," Sage says.

"It's my absolute hope that the professional Rupert Wainwright whom I talked with will reconsider the inaccuracies of this script," Sage says. "As it's written now, I don't want to be associated with it in any fashion, because it is just flat wrong."

http://www.austin360.com/movies/content ... 2waco.html

[WaTcHeR]

Under a statute passed by the Legislature in 2007, also known as a content provision, projects that put Texas in a negative light can be denied incentives. The provision was introduced by state Senate Finance Committee Chairman Steve Ogden, R-Bryan and states that filmmakers taking incentives cannot show "Texas or Texans in a negative fashion."

Ogden added the provision in 2007 after controversy erupted around the Texas-filmed 2006 sports drama "Glory Road," which tells the story of the 1966 Texas Western Miners and, according to school supporters, exaggerates racism at East Texas State University. Hudgins cites historical innacuracies in that case as a precedent to his rejection of the "Waco" script.The provision, however, puts Texas in rare company. Only one other state, Utah, has a similar restriction on approving movies for incentives. And representatives of "Waco" production company Entertainment 7 and others have raised questions about whether Texas should put itself in the position of making judgments about scripts and their effect on perceptions. Entertainment 7 executives also challenge the notion that the new movie would reflect poorly on Texas.

I thought there was only steer's and queers in Texas, it seems that Steve Ogden has added a third one and that would be dumb ass mother fucker's! If Steve Ogden thinks that passing a law to prevent film makers from making Texas look bad, then he is a fucking idiot. There's no law that will make Texas a place that someone would be proud to live in. Texas is full of Racism! Folks in East Texas are some of the most racist people on the Earth! Those people get chains and wrap them around black peoples neck and drag them down the road for fun. I believe that Steve Ogden supports Racism, because Steve Ogden sure doesn't care about the freedom of America. To give you an example, I will bet you that Steve Ogden never did read the "Patriot Act" before passing it. If Steve Ogden had read it, he would have known that the Patriot Act took away many American's Civil liberties.

Anyone that would make a law to prevent some film maker from saying that Texas is probably one of the most hated places in the world because an evil man by the name of George Bush is from Texas and resides there. I'm sure Bush has a price on his head and I don't feel sorry one bit for the guy, he'll get what he deserves I'm sure. I do feel sorry for the people in the Dallas Texas area where Bush lives. I wouldn't want to be a neighbor of the World's most wanted criminal.